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Apr 7th, 2010 at 3:30pm

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Community Theatre vs. Professional Theatre... "Drama, Drama, DRAMA!!" you know it's unavoidable.... now, what kind of things are you willing to put up with when you consider the difference between the 2 types of Theatre? Are there any differences, or is the level of tolerance the same for you? Also, are your loyalties or dedication the same or different when it comes to these 2 types of theatre?
 
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Reply #1 - Apr 7th, 2010 at 10:21pm

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My feeling is: Truly professional theatres do better plays 98% of the time. Community theatres, on the other hand, have cast me. SO I'm torn.
 

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Reply #2 - Apr 8th, 2010 at 8:17am

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I expect both types of theater to strive for excellence.  Just because it's community theater doesn't mean they shouldn't try to put together a good product.  That being said, I expect well-rounded casting, excellent sets, and better staging at professional companies.  While community theaters may have individual performers that are just as good as any professional company, I expect the entire cast of a professional show to be stellar.  On average, I tend to patron community theaters more because that's where I know the most people and because of ticket prices.
 
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Reply #3 - Apr 8th, 2010 at 8:35am

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I have seen community theater shows/performers that are just as good as if they were professional - but I have seen both community and professional shows that were not very good. I stick with community theater because of the cost of the price of a ticket, but I do splurge for professional theater tickets every once in a while. If the price is half as much, and you might get as good of a show, why not go to community theaters?
 
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Reply #4 - Apr 8th, 2010 at 8:41am

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As a viewer, my expectations are infinitely higher with professional theatre. In community theare I take it as a given that there will be a few cast members who can't really act (almost always the case). However, with two exceptions, the professional plays I've seen have also including at least one inept performance. The difference is I shrug them off pretty easily in community theatre, whereas I'm still complaining about Fantine's factory boss in the 1992 touring Les Miserables and Cordelia in the 2001 (I think) PTC production of King Lear.

As an actor, my only experience in truly professional equity theatre was as a teenager, and, frankly they were some of the worst plays i was ever in (I judge that solely as a reflection on that organization). As much as I hate to drag up the dread "semi-pro" term, I have tended to take things like being on time and memorization more seriously when i'm getting paid, but overall it was always my practice to give the best performance I would regardless of the venue. In fact, some of my biggest roles were for non-paying plays and therefore I may have put more into them.
 

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Reply #5 - Apr 8th, 2010 at 9:23am

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Summer wrote on Apr 7th, 2010 at 3:30pm:
Community Theatre vs. Professional Theatre... "Drama, Drama, DRAMA!!" you know it's unavoidable.... now, what kind of things are you willing to put up with when you consider the difference between the 2 types of Theatre? Are there any differences, or is the level of tolerance the same for you? Also, are your loyalties or dedication the same or different when it comes to these 2 types of theatre?

Define your terms ... Smiley

What is the exact difference? Is it the presence of Equity actors? Paid actors ... if so, how much?

It's an old argument for me, but coming form the Chicago Non-Equity scene, it's not a very clear line between various "kinds" of theatres.
 
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Reply #6 - Apr 8th, 2010 at 9:35am

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As an actor: my commitment level is the same no matter where I work.  I don't have a very high level of tolerance for drama or unprofessionalism anywhere, which is why there are only a few "community" theatres that I audition for.  The only expectation difference--I expect all elements of my costumes to be provided at a professional theatre, whereas in community theatre, I expect to have to at least provide my own shoes.

As an audience member: when I see community theatre I expect that it will be "fun"--something I can take the kids to--and occasionally I'm surprised by great performances and great directing.  When I see professional theatre I expect for it to be well-executed and to have excellent production elements, and I'm often disappointed.  I realize as I type this that it reflects a certain prejudice on my part re: community actors vs. professional actors even though I, myself, work in both arenas.

I see a lot of both--I don't find the ticket prices for professional theatres here to be forbidding (with the exception of Pioneer, which is the highest ticket price in SL, aside from touring shows).  You can find Facebook friend prices for certain nights at SLAC and Plan-B tickets are only around $20.
 

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Reply #7 - Apr 8th, 2010 at 10:29am

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So, here's my two cents - I put my all in to my performance no matter the venue or title "community or professional".  However, as an actor, I would hope that those around me would do the same.  It is frustrating to work with cast members who don't care about memorizing lines, being to rehearsals on time, or doing their best because it is "just community".  The audience members who come to see a community show are some who may not see professional theatre, and to me - this may be my one opportunity to provide them with something on the stage they are wanting - either an escape from their normal life, a fun entertaining evening, or maybe something to make them think and possibly change their life.  Theatre is just as important whether it is community or professional - and maybe community theatre is even more important because of the opportunity to reach the average person, rather than just perform perfection to a crowd with high expectations.
 

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Reply #8 - Apr 8th, 2010 at 10:39am

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Thanks for your responses! Oooh, and "Unwritten" - I like how you put that perspective out there!! Hmmm, I want to dig in a bit deeper though, as I should have phrased my original post a bit clearer.. "As an actor" how much "backstage drama" are you willing to put up with? Meaning, the typical stress that comes with Theatre...although we all get involved with it for the LOVE of Theatre, there is some stress that at times develops with Cast, Directors, rehearsal schedules, artistic differences, etc... Do you find your attitude/tolerance level/expectance, etc to differ when you are involved with either a Professional or Community Theatre?

I dunno, maybe it's a loaded question though...
 
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Reply #9 - Apr 8th, 2010 at 10:46am

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Whether community or professional I'll give the same performance.  My tolerance and expectations change depending on how they treat me.  If they treat me like a professional (as in, you can tell they're trying their hardest to make it professionally run but are held up with some of the foibles of theatre), then I'll cut them some slack.  If they treat me with mistrust and an attitude that I don't know what I'm doing and am easily expendable, then I won't tolerate things like the set being finished late, unmemorized actors, unprepared directors, wasted time, etc.
 

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Reply #10 - Apr 8th, 2010 at 11:48am

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That's a good distinction.  If they waste my time, I don't worry about theirs as much.  While I don't ever try and slack, I worry less about being 15 minutes late to call if I normally waste hours in rehearsals where I'm not needed.
 
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Reply #11 - Apr 8th, 2010 at 7:32pm

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My experience has been that there is LESS drama among the production team members in professional theatre because their roles are usually more clearly defined than those of community theatre production teams.� But among cast members....there's usually a little drama both in professional and community.� My response is always the same:� roll my eyes and move on with my job.

A lot of the drama would be diminished if cast members would just take their (valid) concerns straight to the stage manager or (in community theatre) the director.
 

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Reply #12 - Apr 8th, 2010 at 8:21pm

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I agree with everything said here. I personally feel professionalism should exist on all levels no matter what. Community Theatre is a great place to teach that, particularly by example from the actors that do care about their work.
 

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Reply #13 - Apr 22nd, 2010 at 12:04am

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It's definitely obvious in some community productions (as stated already) that there are a few cast members who particularly shine, and are on par with professionals as far as talent.
The thing that I feel is more important than anything is structure -
I've been in a few community theater productions where the director has had very vivid vision of what they want out of their play, and they make it happen...but i've also been in plays where the director has a "do what you want with it" view (to some degree of course, every actor should put their own spin on their character) - but to this degree, the director obviously didn't really know what they wanted, but were quick to complain about everything.

An audience that pays money (any amount really) is going to expect something worth what they paid.. and i personally put my passion and ALL into every performance, because i want to share that with people..
I want to impact people, and make people connect and really FEEL good and escape from their lives for that time.
Performing should be about passion, and connecting to your audiences.. Not status, or money.
 
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Reply #14 - May 18th, 2010 at 6:18pm

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We consider ourselves semi-professional as we pay our actors and run our business all year long. What drives me crazy is actors who treat things like being prepared and coming on time as if they were doing community theatre (or at least the people who have a nonchalant attitude about it),..but then, we don't use them again.
Personally, I have been in 1 community play that was run so poorly that I could have screamed (wait...I did). 3 that were just ok...(but I had slightly more creative control over what was going on.) I just don't do them anymore.
 
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Reply #15 - May 18th, 2010 at 6:30pm

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Poison Ivy Mysteries wrote on May 18th, 2010 at 6:18pm:
We consider ourselves semi-professional as we pay our actors and run our business all year long. What drives me crazy is actors who treat things like being prepared and coming on time as if they were doing community theatre (or at least the people who have a nonchalant attitude about it),..but then, we don't use them again.
Personally, I have been in 1 community play that was run so poorly that I could have screamed (wait...I did). 3 that were just ok...(but I had slightly more creative control over what was going on.) I just don't do them anymore.


I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but some community theatres operate all year long, if you're defining community as volunteer theatres, not just, for example, local city Arts Council summer productions.
 

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