The Green Room - Based On, Adaptations, Inspired by, etc...

Reply #10 - Dec 29^th, 2008 at 10:41am

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Nuff Sed wrote on Dec 27^th, 2008 at 2:30pm:

Thanks for the resource link for COPY-RIGHT info. The subject of PUBLIC DOMAIN materials. Is there a resource to check what falls into that category? Is there reference material stating a specific "PRIOR TO XXXX Year?"

Here's a couple of quick reference charts I found:

http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm (quick and dirty)

http://www.copyright.cornell.edu/public_domain/ (more detailed)

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Reply #11 - Dec 31^st, 2008 at 9:46am

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Nuff Sed wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2008 at 11:28am:

Putting this out to the theatre officinato and the cadre of enthusiasts.

Questions: What is the cleanest and easiest to adapt a work so the original [Book, Story, Movie, Poem] gets the credit and without crossing lines of plagiarism?

I'm a little confused by this wording. Isn't plagarism defined by what you have the legal right to adapt, not by how close it is to the material? If you don't have the legal right, than itdoesn't matter how close or far you are, it's plagarism. If you do have the legal right, it doesn't matter, it's not plagarism.

Others here have given some great input on legalites. I'm just curious whether I'm not understanding the question.

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Reply #12 - Dec 31^st, 2008 at 11:08am

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Nuff Sed wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2008 at 11:28am:

Putting this out to the theatre officinato and the cadre of enthusiasts.

Questions: What is the cleanest and easiest to adapt a work so the original [Book, Story, Movie, Poem] gets the credit and without crossing lines of plagiarism?

I'm a little confused by this wording. Isn't plagarism defined by what you have the legal right to adapt, not by how close it is to the material? If you don't have the legal right, than itdoesn't matter how close or far you are, it's plagarism. If you do have the legal right, it doesn't matter, it's not plagarism.

Others here have given some great input on legalites. I'm just curious whether I'm not understanding the question.

Thanks for the opportunity to muddy or clear things up.

My question is pointed at "Getting Legal." Who do I contact first to get the greatest result? A lawyer? The Production Company? The Publisher?
I've researched a Story written in 1932 and a movie/musical was adapted in 1954. The Publishing house of the original book has since closed. According to some available guidelines and reference websites the Authors works may in fact be Public Domain. (There are no copyrights listed as active)
How can I know for sure if it is indeed Public Domain? The movie was registered 1979 for Copyright.

Maybe the wording in unclear; What is the cleanest and easiest to adapt a work so the original [Book, Story, Movie, Poem] gets the credit and without crossing lines of plagiarism? or How can I get legal? I get that Public Domain works solves a large portion of problems. It's the clarity I'm looking for.

And, why do I keep hearing Cash Register Bells ringing?

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Reply #13 - Dec 31^st, 2008 at 11:37am

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Nuff Sed wrote on Dec 31^st, 2008 at 11:08am:

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Nuff Sed wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2008 at 11:28am:

Putting this out to the theatre officinato and the cadre of enthusiasts.

Questions: What is the cleanest and easiest to adapt a work so the original [Book, Story, Movie, Poem] gets the credit and without crossing lines of plagiarism?

I'm a little confused by this wording. Isn't plagarism defined by what you have the legal right to adapt, not by how close it is to the material? If you don't have the legal right, than itdoesn't matter how close or far you are, it's plagarism. If you do have the legal right, it doesn't matter, it's not plagarism.

Others here have given some great input on legalites. I'm just curious whether I'm not understanding the question.

Thanks for the opportunity to muddy or clear things up.

My question is pointed at "Getting Legal." Who do I contact first to get the greatest result? A lawyer? The Production Company? The Publisher?
I've researched a Story written in 1932 and a movie/musical was adapted in 1954. The Publishing house of the original book has since closed. According to some available guidelines and reference websites the Authors works may in fact be Public Domain. (There are no copyrights listed as active)
How can I know for sure if it is indeed Public Domain? The movie was registered 1979 for Copyright.

Maybe the wording in unclear; What is the cleanest and easiest to adapt a work so the original [Book, Story, Movie, Poem] gets the credit and without crossing lines of plagiarism? or How can I get legal? I get that Public Domain works solves a large portion of problems. It's the clarity I'm looking for.

And, why do I keep hearing Cash Register Bells ringing?

Perhaps this will help:

http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/renewals.html

The original book's copyright would have to have been renewed after 28 years, so sometime in 1960 (or 1961; sometimes the Library of Congress is a little slow in registering renewals). If it was renewed, the copyright is in force for an additional 67 years (2027 or so). But a lot of copyrights aren't renewed.

Researching these things can be tricky. The best way to be sure is probably to have the Copyright Office research it for you (that is their job, after all). The downside is that the fee for that is $150 per hour or fraction thereof. Here's the circular from the Copyright Office that talks about researching copyrights:

http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ22.html

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