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Reply #10 - Jun 19th, 2008 at 4:27pm

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spiker wrote on Jun 19th, 2008 at 8:46am:
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If you prefer musicals as an actor or audience member, why?


I prefer musicals because I love music.  Straight plays can make me sleepy (like when I saw Othello at PTC -- uggh).  Bad acting is less easy to cover up in straight plays.  The last drama I saw was Pinnacle's The Seagull which I really enjoyed.  But, overall, I'd take a musical any day.
 

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Reply #11 - Jun 19th, 2008 at 8:43pm

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IMHO, as far as the general theatergoing public is concerned, musicals are indeed the "shorthand" pieces of theater. We live in a fast paced society, mass entertainment is simple, people don't have to work at being entertained anymore. That is the beauty behind most musicals. Plays take work from an audience, which today's society just doesn't want to do anymore. That is the sad fact. That is why, even on Broadway, musicals are the moneymakers. It's a sad and tragic fact.

That's my two cents worth. I totally disagree with this sentiment in the public though. I think the public is lazy and is missing out on a rich cornucopia of wonderful entertainment by sticking to musicals. Musicals are great and they have their place, but there is so much more out there. And sorry, I have to disagree, IMHO bad acting is even more harder to hide in musicals. OMG! If you can't make the process from script to music and then back to script beliveable, I'm outta there in a New York minute. Bad acting ruins musicals every time! Music is only the tool to move a plot along and to express something that cannot be expressed in words alone. No more no less. The acting IMHO has to be at the top of its game for it to work! That is why so many productions, not the material itself, suck!
 

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Reply #12 - Jun 19th, 2008 at 8:47pm
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Toddy wrote on Jun 19th, 2008 at 8:43pm:
IMHO, as far as the general theatergoing public is concerned, musicals are indeed the "shorthand" pieces of theater. We live in a fast paced society, mass entertainment is simple, people don't have to work at being entertained anymore. That is the beauty behind most musicals. Plays take work from an audience, which today's society just doesn't want to do anymore. That is the sad fact. That is why, even on Broadway, musicals are the moneymakers. It's a sad and tragic fact.

That's my two cents worth. I totally disagree with this sentiment in the public though. I think the public is lazy and is missing out on a rich cornucopia of wonderful entertainment by sticking to musicals. Musicals are great and they have their place, but there is so much more out there. And sorry, I have to disagree, IMHO bad acting is even more harder to hide in musicals. OMG! If you can't make the process from script to music and then back to script beliveable, I'm outta there in a New York minute. Bad acting ruins musicals every time! Music is only the tool to move a plot along and to express something that cannot be expressed in words alone. No more no less. The acting IMHO has to be at the top of its game for it to work! That is why so many productions, not the material itself, suck!


Toddy, we are agreeing an AWFUL LOT lately. Smiley
 
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Reply #13 - Jun 19th, 2008 at 9:54pm

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Tshep wrote on Jun 19th, 2008 at 9:16am:
spiker wrote on Jun 19th, 2008 at 9:06am:
Tshep wrote on Jun 19th, 2008 at 9:05am:
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And (god forbid) what was the last DRAMA you saw?


The Pillowman.


Oooh. �Where did you see that? �It wasn't around here, was it?


Not there... here in Arkansas.... but it would be an interesting dose of dark-'n-freaky to spring on a Utah audience.


Well, lucky for you then, because the U is doing it in November!  Of course, they have to start taking a serious interest in Martin MacDonagh AFTER I graduate, but such is the nature of flux within this world...
 
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Reply #14 - Jun 19th, 2008 at 11:19pm

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TenorJew wrote on Jun 19th, 2008 at 9:54pm:
Tshep wrote on Jun 19th, 2008 at 9:16am:
spiker wrote on Jun 19th, 2008 at 9:06am:
Tshep wrote on Jun 19th, 2008 at 9:05am:
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And (god forbid) what was the last DRAMA you saw?


The Pillowman.


Oooh. �Where did you see that? �It wasn't around here, was it?


Not there... here in Arkansas.... but it would be an interesting dose of dark-'n-freaky to spring on a Utah audience.


Well, lucky for you then, because the U is doing it in November! �Of course, they have to start taking a serious interest in Martin MacDonagh AFTER I graduate, but such is the nature of flux within this world...


That's exciting! I'm so there!
 

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Reply #15 - Jun 19th, 2008 at 11:33pm
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I personally love straight plays almost as much as musicals. Unfortunately, I usually get cast in musicals because I can sing and fake dance, and as such I've developed a lot more familiarity with musical theatre than non-musical theatre. Some of my most fun theatre experiences, though, were doing things like Caucasian Chalk Circle or Cash on Delivery! in high school, and if I thought I could get cast in plays as often as I'm cast in musicals, I'd audition for them much more often. But, just like musicals, straight plays rely mostly on type; and most theatres, especially in Utah, rely on familiar faces. At stops like SLAC or Plan-B or USF, I'm still just a college student without his Equity card, who, 90% of the time, doesn't fit the role. And on top of that, there are much better actors going for the roles. So, my resume ends up dominated by what I know best: musicals.
 
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Reply #16 - Jun 19th, 2008 at 11:37pm
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Oh, and the last play I saw was Curious Savage at HCTWV, one of the best non-musicals they've ever done IMO. And the last DRAMA I saw was probably The Rose and the Rime...although that may not count. Better say Take Me Out or Waiting for the Parade to be sure.
 
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Reply #17 - Jun 20th, 2008 at 9:53am

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Here's just a theory:

Pace is one of the more complicated and advanced things in theatre, I think. Learning to act on the line, taking the air out, driving the rythyms of a scene. It's vital in "straight" plays to have that sense of pace, but it's something that's lacking in many productions, especially in venues where tyere's less training and/or experience.

In Musicals, much of that pace is done for you. I realized when working on a recent musical that there wasn't much we could do to shave time off the show. Tightening the dialog will only do so much, as a great majority of the running time is determined by the music.

In "straight" plays, the pacing is usually up to the actors and director to find. In musicals, that's largely the creation of the composer, and the musical director's interpretation of the tempo notation. It's a bit easier to control pace in a musical, and that means it's generally a more enjoyable experience for the audience.
 
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Reply #18 - Jun 20th, 2008 at 10:07am

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I'll just stick with the questions I can answer:

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Why are you more likely to audition for a musical than a straight play?


I'm not, really.  I don't sing or dance (and my acting's questionable, at best), which makes doing musicals somewhat problematic.

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�What was the last straight play you were in?


Medea at Pinnacle.

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What was the last one you saw? �And (god forbid) what was the last DRAMA you saw?


The Seagull, also at Pinnacle.  I know, I know, Chekhov thought he wrote comedies, but he was up in the night.

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If you prefer musicals as an actor or audience member, why?


As an audience member, I have no preference between musicals and non-musicals.  I enjoy (or don't enjoy, depending on the production) both equally.  As an actor, as I said above, I avoid musicals because I don't have the proper skills set to do them correctly.  And every musical I have been in has been a train wreck.  Every one.  Without exception.  I think I'm a curse to musicals.  You really don't want me in your musical.  I'll doom the production.   Smiley
 

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Reply #19 - Jun 25th, 2008 at 7:08pm

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Toddy wrote on Jun 19th, 2008 at 8:43pm:
IMHO, as far as the general theatergoing public is concerned, musicals are indeed the "shorthand" pieces of theater. We live in a fast paced society, mass entertainment is simple, people don't have to work at being entertained anymore. That is the beauty behind most musicals. Plays take work from an audience, which today's society just doesn't want to do anymore. That is the sad fact. That is why, even on Broadway, musicals are the moneymakers. It's a sad and tragic fact.

That's my two cents worth. I totally disagree with this sentiment in the public though. I think the public is lazy and is missing out on a rich cornucopia of wonderful entertainment by sticking to musicals. Musicals are great and they have their place, but there is so much more out there. And sorry, I have to disagree, IMHO bad acting is even more harder to hide in musicals. OMG! If you can't make the process from script to music and then back to script beliveable, I'm outta there in a New York minute. Bad acting ruins musicals every time! Music is only the tool to move a plot along and to express something that cannot be expressed in words alone. No more no less. The acting IMHO has to be at the top of its game for it to work! That is why so many productions, not the material itself, suck!


there is no smiley face that lets me applaud this quote. My sentiment exactly. There are SOOOOOo many wonderful plays out there that mainstream america totally misses because of mass media and the easy access we all have to entertainment. It is soooo sad. Don't get me wrong, I'll be the first to admit that I love the occasional season of next top model or project runway or american idol, and especially don't get me wrong...I ADORE musicals. I have done more musicals than plays, and it is a top passion in my life...but I think that highschools and colleges should be required to learn or should at least suggest that their students read the pulitzer prize winning plays of the past years. Such a rich canon of american art. Such a rich cultural experience. I feel bad for people that don't know these wonderful plays.
 

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