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When do you admit your range is ... your range? (Read 1214 times)
Reply #10 - Apr 19th, 2008 at 9:01pm

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Yes, please! �Be scientificky! �And also explain why I have a nice bass/baritone, and an ok alto, and a beautiful, wide-ranged soprano (most days I can sound like June Bronhill, on rare good days I can sound like Harolyn Blackwell), but no tenor at all.

Especially when male leads are almost always tenors. �Sad  (well, male leads also don't have my face, so I've kind of made my peace with it all already, but still, not being able to hit those darn tenor notes irks me sometimes.)
 

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Reply #11 - Apr 22nd, 2008 at 1:51pm

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I thought I was an alto, because that's what I've always sung in groups, but turns out I'm a mezzo (can't always hit those really low notes...).  However, I'm not always terribly confident about my high range (working on that, eh Pers?), so at auditions, I put both and sing something mezzo.
 

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Reply #12 - Apr 24th, 2008 at 2:23am

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I'd love the scientific explanation as well.  I know where my voice tops out, and where it bottoms out.  As a vocal coach, I'm fascinated by the voices of my students, what their total ranges are, and how that compares to usable range and where their "money notes" live.

Voice is fascinating to me.  If I felt like going back to school, I'd have many research projects I'd be ready to delve into.
 

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Reply #13 - May 12th, 2008 at 6:10pm

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shimmer wrote on Apr 18th, 2008 at 5:17pm:
P.S. Men's voices peak later in life then women's.... jerks.

this explains a lot about what's been happening to me the last 5 years... I used to feel like an actor who sings...and suddenly, I'm focussing more on my voice because I'm getting better results.

hmmm....
 

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Reply #14 - May 13th, 2008 at 5:03pm

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OK, if you're a baritone/bass and want to do musical theater, you are never, ever, ever, ever, etc. honest about your range, because as has been said, the best parts are all tenor.  So once you have them fooled and they cast you, it's often times too late, and you get the primo part!!!  Hey, it's worked for me for a few years anyway.
 

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Reply #15 - May 13th, 2008 at 5:16pm

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Mind Your Business Time wrote on May 13th, 2008 at 5:03pm:
OK, if you're a baritone/bass and want to do musical theater, you are never, ever, ever, ever, etc. honest about your range, because as has been said, the best parts are all tenor. �So once you have them fooled and they cast you, it's often times too late, and you get the primo part!!! �Hey, it's worked for me for a few years anyway.


Of course, what Business Time fails to mention is that he has worked very hard on extending his range, and has a wonderful singing voice.  For those of us who truly are basses, it's a wee bit harder to pull off that trick.  Especially if you can't carry a tune if it was strapped to your back.

Just sayin'....
 

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Reply #16 - Jun 16th, 2008 at 9:42am

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mr. spiker wrote on Apr 18th, 2008 at 10:50am:
So, with a musical coming up for me next I am getting back into singing and thinking about singing. I used to sing quite seriously, but put it away when I made the decision to head into "straight" theatre for school instead of opera/vocal performance.

Now I'm realizing that in this market, since I can sing I probably should. I'll never be a real musical comedy guy, but there are possibilities I shouldn't close myself off from.

Anyways ... I have many questions I'd love to ask some of the more experienced singers. Here's one: I started out a true bass, but gradually expanded the upper range to a comfortable baritone/2nd tenor. �When do you simply give up and say "that's just flat out of my range"? Obviously, there are limits, but how do you draw them? If you usually top out at F ... when do you say "nope ... can't do F# or a G".



So - to answer my own question in a way ...

I easily added a third to my range in this show. Sure... it's not like I was sailing on those G#s, but I sang 'em.

... oh, and then there's that high C where I used falsetto for the first time ever. Clasical bass/baritones don't exacyly get asked to do that often in their training. Smiley
 
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Reply #17 - Jun 19th, 2008 at 3:50am

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All right, now I'm curious to hear what Shimmer has to say.

And I have two questions: when do women's voices apparently peak? (Please don't make me nervous here, I'm desperate to start back into voice and I already feel like I'm way too old. That, and I'm scared to death of it because I know I am not always a healthy singer and I'm somewhat concerned that I've done irreparable damage. Continuing on.)

Secondly: I remember my voice teacher in high school telling me that there are very few "true" altos. There were some qualifiers that she slipped in there that I can't remember, but I'm wondering if it's right. It's something I've wondered for a while.

Anyway! Shimmer and Persistent should say things, because I find it fascinating.
 

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