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Mar 6th, 2008 at 11:00am

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I know we've probably had a topic on this before, but I'm starting a new one because I did not want to keep hijacking the "Right to Know" thread. AHEM.

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spiker wrote on Mar 5th, 2008 at 10:25pm:
And Billie Piper is the greatest thing ever.


She is so damn cute, I want to eat her up. Everyone keeps telling me that Martha is better, but I am pretty sure that is a big fat lie.

(And I've never seen previous doctors... so far I like Eccleston but I know Tennant will be my favorite, I think.)

Eccleston was a good "re-boot" for the series. �For something like... �crap, 40 some odd years before him, they seemed locked into this singular image of the Doctor being this eccentric old man, dressed in roughly the same clothes, just different cuts and colors, sometimes getting to be downright clownish in the cases of Colin Baker and Patrick Throughton.

The only drawback to the most recent two (much younger looking) Doctors is that they are dangerously close to forgetting that he is, indeed, about 1000 years old.


Really? I thought they did an excellent job with keeping a really mad feel to it, that he's sort of nuts because he's seen it all but that he also has this really peculiar and particular sympathy because of that fact. I feel like Tennant in particular (so far) does a really great job with the zany factor, that this guy is really not quite right in the head and that he could bite you. They both have this high-voltage friendliness that's just frightening and off-putting, which I love.

But then again, I don't know much about vintage Dr. Who. (Yeah, that's what we're calling it.)
 

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Reply #1 - Mar 6th, 2008 at 11:20am

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I enjoyed Rose and would have liked to see her continue. But her final�(?) was heart wrenching and well executed. ("My name is Rose Tyler. And this is the story of how I died.")

Martha had a nice story arc, but I felt she connected a little too easily with the Doctor. You know, once she got rid of her baggage. (You can catch up with her this Saturday on BBC America's "Torchwood".)

I'm not looking forward to the return of "The Bride" for the coming season. Her Christmas episode proved her to be relatively annoying.

Eccelston and Tennant each bring a different flavor to the Doctor. But, I understand that's the way it is planned. I never watched the original series. So I don't have a real point of reference.

The fun of it is the whole low budget, clunky feel of the escapades. The wacky costumes and rubber masks. Still, they dare to do an episode where the main cast only appears for a couple of minutes and the rest of the show is devoted to a woman we've never met before. And neither have the Doctor and Martha... yet. (Ah, time travel!)
 

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Reply #2 - Mar 6th, 2008 at 11:32am

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Oh for the days on Jon Pertwee, Peter Davison and Tom Baker, the 3 Dr's I grew up with.  They had K9 the robot dog and some very dodgy female companions keeping them company in the TARDIS.

Throw in the Master, the Cybermen, the Daleks et al and this was required Saturday evening viewing!
 
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Reply #3 - Mar 6th, 2008 at 11:47am

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Just for the Pretender: http://youtube.com/watch?v=WxB1gB6K-2A (Don't you sass me about Catherine "the Bride" Tate. I love her. And my friends and I quote this sketch incessantly.)

Rose is coming back, at any rate, which I am glad of-- I don't know how well I'd have made it through the series if I didn't have that information. She really is... seriously one of my favorite characters ever.

It reminds me of when I used to watch Xena when I was in junior high. (Yeah, I did. And so did some of you, don't lie.) It's really campy and it pokes fun at itself, but it also has a LOT of heart and genuine love put into it. I love that David Tennant used to watch the series when he was little and wanted to grow up and play the Doctor on television. I think that's the best thing ever.

Blorski-- THE DALEKS. THEY KILL ME. I have this... oh lord, it's sort of like when people get so fascinated with something they hate that they come back around and start to love it again. That is me and Daleks. (My giddy love-hate for them was sealed when my dad came in last night while I was watching an episode, said "Wait, hold on, Daleks can do STAIRS now? Huh." and left the room. MY DAD KNOWS ABOUT DR WHO. So funny to me.)
 

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Reply #4 - Mar 6th, 2008 at 11:54am

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Really? I thought they did an excellent job with keeping a really mad feel to it, that he's sort of nuts because he's seen it all but that he also has this really peculiar and particular sympathy because of that fact. I feel like Tennant in particular (so far) does a really great job with the zany factor, that this guy is really not quite right in the head and that he could bite you. They both have this high-voltage friendliness that's just frightening and off-putting, which I love.

But then again, I don't know much about vintage Dr. Who. (Yeah, that's what we're calling it.)

I really don't get that "mad" feel from Eccleston as much as I did from Colin Baker (my personal fave ever since someone at a convention told me I looked a bit like him).  Energetic and driven, maybe, but not mad.

Tennant...  just seems like he's running on youthful enthusiasm, a good thing, but not quite the same.
 

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Reply #5 - Mar 6th, 2008 at 11:58am

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What station is this show on?  I didn't even know it existed anymore.  Used to be a fan.
 

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Reply #6 - Mar 6th, 2008 at 11:59am

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Slime scum blorski wrote on Mar 6th, 2008 at 11:32am:
Oh for the days on Jon Pertwee, Peter Davison and Tom Baker, the 3 Dr's I grew up with. �They had K9 the robot dog and some very dodgy female companions keeping them company in the TARDIS.

Throw in the Master, the Cybermen, the Daleks et al and this was required Saturday evening viewing!

Yes.  It seems Tom Baker set the standard that all the following Doctors were lined up against. 

Plus, as much as I like Rose for being one companion who doesn't seem like she's there to play the "straight man" to the Doctor's one-liners all the time, I really miss Sarah Jane and Leela.  Sort of miss Peri from the Colin Baker years, but again, her job also seemed to be to stand around looking dumbfounded at his references.

Definitely miss the ever-growing scarf.
 

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kitchensinger wrote on Mar 6th, 2008 at 11:58am:
What station is this show on? �I didn't even know it existed anymore. �Used to be a fan.


It's comes on BBC, I know... does it come on the Sci-Fi channel too? I'm not sure, actually-- I've been watching it on DVD and I have no idea when it comes on regularly.
 

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Reply #8 - Mar 6th, 2008 at 12:03pm

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Just for the Pretender: http://youtube.com/watch?v=WxB1gB6K-2A (Don't you sass me about Catherine "the Bride" Tate. I love her. And my friends and I quote this sketch incessantly.)

Best NOBODY be dissin' on Catherine Tate!

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I love that David Tennant used to watch the series when he was little and wanted to grow up and play the Doctor on television. I think that's the best thing ever.

That's a help

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Blorski-- THE DALEKS. THEY KILL ME. I have this... oh lord, it's sort of like when people get so fascinated with something they hate that they come back around and start to love it again. That is me and Daleks. (My giddy love-hate for them was sealed when my dad came in last night while I was watching an episode, said "Wait, hold on, Daleks can do STAIRS now? Huh." and left the room. MY DAD KNOWS ABOUT DR WHO. So funny to me.)

THat reminds me of a cartoon I read where an army of Daleks come to a set of stairs and one says, "Well, this buggers our plans a bit..."

Glad the new producers recognized the problem, and have a means to fix that little glitch in their menace factor.
 

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Reply #9 - Mar 6th, 2008 at 12:13pm

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The Pretender wrote on Mar 6th, 2008 at 11:20am:
The fun of it is the whole low budget, clunky feel of the escapades. The wacky costumes and rubber masks.

Yes.  That was sort of the appeal of Doctor Who over, say, Star Trek.  It seemed for a while that American Sci-fi was all about special effects.  Star Trek: the Next Generation didn't always help that perception.  I (*heart*) BBC-style sci-fi because, yeah, the sfx can be cheesy (much better in recent years, actually), but shows like Doctor Who and Red Dwarf are actual science fiction stories with plots revolving around certain scientific concepts, rather than westerns set in outer space.

I've liked Doctor Who too for the characters.  Very vividly written with clear, distictive physicalities that go beyond prosthetics and speaking in monotones to denote an "alien."
 

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