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Oct 8th, 2007 at 9:26am

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mr. was informed about this by a friend of ours.  I've only looked through it a little, but it seems incredibly useful.  The spoken passages are long enough that you can get a feel for the dialect.  And the regions/types are very specific.

International Dialects of English Archive
 

"...there are more people alive now than have died in all of human history. �In other words, if everyone wanted to play Hamlet at once, they couldn't, because there aren't enough skulls!"
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Reply #1 - Oct 8th, 2007 at 9:49am

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yeah...this is a GREAT resource. I use it all the time in my audio book work.

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Reply #2 - Oct 8th, 2007 at 9:55am

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Of course, there's some glaring omissions, namely, Utah, Idaho, Wyoming.  I might have to record some people and submit the files.
 

"...there are more people alive now than have died in all of human history. �In other words, if everyone wanted to play Hamlet at once, they couldn't, because there aren't enough skulls!"
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Reply #3 - Oct 8th, 2007 at 10:51am

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spiker wrote on Oct 8th, 2007 at 9:55am:
Of course, there's some glaring omissions, namely, Utah, Idaho, Wyoming. �I might have to record some people and submit the files.


That's because we don't have dialects.  It's all the rest of you that talk funny!   Roll Eyes

Very useful-looking site, though.
 

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Reply #4 - Oct 15th, 2007 at 11:02am

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they need a Staten Island, and a South Jersey one too...

but otherwise it looks pretty cool.

it makes me laugh that playing them at work with my friend (who was born and raised in N Jersey), he got almost all of the east coast ones right, but much past PA, and he said they all sounded the same to him... Smiley
 

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Reply #5 - Jan 30th, 2008 at 5:58pm

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I love IDEA.  It's a great archive.  If you combine that with fantastic voice/speech teachers like I've had and a working knowledge of IPA, it's an utterly invaluable resource.

My personal final project for my senior year in voice/speech was a short dissection of the Utahn dialect.  I can try to find it, if any of you wish.
 
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Reply #6 - Jan 30th, 2008 at 7:45pm

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Pshaw. Who "studies" dialects?  Everybody learned how to use the same generic pseudo-British accent in High School drama, and it works for EVERYTHING.
 
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Reply #7 - Jan 31st, 2008 at 7:41am

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spiker wrote on Oct 8th, 2007 at 9:55am:
Of course, there's some glaring omissions, namely, Utah, Idaho, Wyoming. �I might have to record some people and submit the files.

I heard an NPR story a few years ago (might have been on Radio West) where someone was studying the Utah dialect, and found there are actually at least three of them.
 

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Reply #8 - Jan 31st, 2008 at 9:54am

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That would explain the communication problem I have with my grandpa who lives in Central Utah. �Once he asked me to find him a "power card" for his chain saw. �I looked at him with a bewildered expression. �I didn't know what a power card was! �He looked back at me like I was the biggest idiot on earth! �He had to repeat the term three times before I realized he really wanted a "power chord."
 

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Reply #9 - Jan 31st, 2008 at 12:07pm

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Pshaw. Who "studies" dialects? �Everybody learned how to use the same generic pseudo-British accent in High School drama, and it works for EVERYTHING.


Does this include the nasty nasal tone everyone seems to think is "proper" British?  And the use of the dreaded "t" sound in lieu of the "d" sound?

(So help me, if one more person says "Lay-teas and Jjjjjentellmon..." in the hopes of achieving a British-sounding accent... *shakes fist and narrows eyes*)

For a good example of a proper British dialect: *points to Spiker and Kaylee*
 

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Reply #10 - Jan 31st, 2008 at 12:48pm

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kitchensinger wrote on Jan 31st, 2008 at 9:54am:
That would explain the communication problem I have with my grandpa who lives in Central Utah.  Once he asked me to find him a "power card" for his chain saw.  I looked at him with a bewildered expression.  I didn't know what a power card was!  He looked back at me like I was the biggest idiot on earth!  He had to repeat the term three times before I realized he really wanted a "power chord."


I do hope that you turned it up to 11.

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Stretch Armstrong wrote on Jan 31st, 2008 at 12:48pm:
kitchensinger wrote on Jan 31st, 2008 at 9:54am:
That would explain the communication problem I have with my grandpa who lives in Central Utah. �Once he asked me to find him a "power card" for his chain saw. �I looked at him with a bewildered expression. �I didn't know what a power card was! �He looked back at me like I was the biggest idiot on earth! �He had to repeat the term three times before I realized he really wanted a "power chord."


I do hope that you turned it up to 11.

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Reply #12 - Jan 31st, 2008 at 1:57pm

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kitchensinger wrote on Jan 31st, 2008 at 9:54am:
That would explain the communication problem I have with my grandpa who lives in Central Utah. �Once he asked me to find him a "power card" for his chain saw. �I looked at him with a bewildered expression. �I didn't know what a power card was! �He looked back at me like I was the biggest idiot on earth! �He had to repeat the term three times before I realized he really wanted a "power chord."

And you gave it to him, right?  A nice, resounding A Major?

Sorry.  Spelling snark. 
 

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Reply #13 - Jan 31st, 2008 at 4:20pm

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That would explain the communication problem I have with my grandpa who lives in Central Utah. �Once he asked me to find him a "power card" for his chain saw. �I looked at him with a bewildered expression. �I didn't know what a power card was! �He looked back at me like I was the biggest idiot on earth! �He had to repeat the term three times before I realized he really wanted a "power chord."

And you gave it to him, right? �A nice, resounding A Major?

Sorry. �Spelling snark. �


Very funny. �Unfortunately (or as my grandpa would say, "un-far-tunately") I can't sing 3 notes at the same time.

AND my grandpa only likes honky-tonk.

But I love him though...even when he's angry while holding a chain saw.
 

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Reply #14 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 8:03am

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That is a really cool website.  Thanks.  Smiley
 
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Reply #15 - Feb 12th, 2008 at 10:39pm

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Pshaw. Who "studies" dialects? �Everybody learned how to use the same generic pseudo-British accent in High School drama, and it works for EVERYTHING.


On that note -- I just auditioned for a pretty good, equity-sanctioned Shakespeare company a week and a half ago...and a few of the girls called back for Hero in Much Ado and what's-her-face in A Winter's Tale were doing that pseudo-British thing.  I wasn't sure if I wanted to kill them or myself.
 
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Reply #16 - Feb 13th, 2008 at 7:22am

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TenorJew wrote on Feb 12th, 2008 at 10:39pm:
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Pshaw. Who "studies" dialects? �Everybody learned how to use the same generic pseudo-British accent in High School drama, and it works for EVERYTHING.


On that note -- I just auditioned for a pretty good, equity-sanctioned Shakespeare company a week and a half ago...and a few of the girls called back for Hero in Much Ado and what's-her-face in A Winter's Tale were doing that pseudo-British thing. �I wasn't sure if I wanted to kill them or myself.

So, just trying the old "Eastern Standard" dialect just wasn't good enough for them? 

Tsk.
 

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Reply #17 - Feb 13th, 2008 at 8:02am

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Pshaw. Who "studies" dialects?  Everybody learned how to use the same generic pseudo-British accent in High School drama, and it works for EVERYTHING.


Um.  Me.  I do.
 

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Reply #18 - Feb 13th, 2008 at 8:36am

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Pshaw. Who "studies" dialects? �Everybody learned how to use the same generic pseudo-British accent in High School drama, and it works for EVERYTHING.


Um. �Me. �I do.


As if I needed another reason to like you  Smiley I was being EXTREMELY sarcastic.I hate that High School drama voice.
 
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Reply #19 - Feb 13th, 2008 at 8:50am

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Pshaw. Who "studies" dialects? �Everybody learned how to use the same generic pseudo-British accent in High School drama, and it works for EVERYTHING.


Um. �Me. �I do.


As if I needed another reason to like you �Smiley I was being EXTREMELY sarcastic.I hate that High School drama voice.

Oh, the days when the Gamemaster at my RPG sessions would attempt to do an English Non-Player Character...  always sounded like a bad John Cleese impression...
 

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Reply #20 - Feb 13th, 2008 at 10:36am

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Pshaw. Who "studies" dialects?  Everybody learned how to use the same generic pseudo-British accent in High School drama, and it works for EVERYTHING.


Um.  Me.  I do.


As if I needed another reason to like you  Smiley I was being EXTREMELY sarcastic.I hate that High School drama voice.

Oh, the days when the Gamemaster at my RPG sessions would attempt to do an English Non-Player Character...  always sounded like a bad John Cleese impression...


Speeking of John Cleese and gaming, I just finished the part in Jade Empire where John Cleese makes a cameo appearance as Sir Roderick Ponce von Fontlebottom the Magnificent Bastard.
 

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Reply #21 - Feb 13th, 2008 at 11:20am

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Pshaw. Who "studies" dialects? �Everybody learned how to use the same generic pseudo-British accent in High School drama, and it works for EVERYTHING.


Um. �Me. �I do.


As if I needed another reason to like you �Smiley I was being EXTREMELY sarcastic.I hate that High School drama voice.


What I want is to be like Daniel Davis - from Arkansas, but able to convince everyone he was British so much that he got fan mail telling him to help Charles Shaugnassy - a true Brit - with his "poor" accent.  That would be bliss.
 

There is one thing you never put in a trap, if you're smart - if you value your continued existence - if you have any plans about seeing tomorrow there is one thing you never EVER put in a trap.� Me.

Listen, I don't know what sort of kids you've been flying around with in outer space, but you're not telling me to shut up!

As long as I don't bleed or cry, I'll do it!
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Reply #22 - Feb 13th, 2008 at 3:40pm

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Pshaw. Who "studies" dialects? �Everybody learned how to use the same generic pseudo-British accent in High School drama, and it works for EVERYTHING.


Um. �Me. �I do.


As if I needed another reason to like you �Smiley I was being EXTREMELY sarcastic.I hate that High School drama voice.


What I want is to be like Daniel Davis - from Arkansas, but able to convince everyone he was British so much that he got fan mail telling him to help Charles Shaugnassy - a true Brit - with his "poor" accent. �That would be bliss.


And all this time I was impressed with his American accent in "The Hunt For Red October" . . .

Everybody in local theater THINKS they can do a British accents, but only a few are truly good at it.
 
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Reply #23 - Feb 13th, 2008 at 3:45pm

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Pshaw. Who "studies" dialects? �Everybody learned how to use the same generic pseudo-British accent in High School drama, and it works for EVERYTHING.


Um. �Me. �I do.


As if I needed another reason to like you �Smiley I was being EXTREMELY sarcastic.I hate that High School drama voice.


What I want is to be like Daniel Davis - from Arkansas, but able to convince everyone he was British so much that he got fan mail telling him to help Charles Shaugnassy - a true Brit - with his "poor" accent. �That would be bliss.


Did you see the episode where Daniel did an accent of a Brit trying to imitate someone from Arkansas?  AWESOME.
 

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Pshaw. Who "studies" dialects? �Everybody learned how to use the same generic pseudo-British accent in High School drama, and it works for EVERYTHING.


Um. �Me. �I do.


As if I needed another reason to like you �Smiley I was being EXTREMELY sarcastic.I hate that High School drama voice.


What I want is to be like Daniel Davis - from Arkansas, but able to convince everyone he was British so much that he got fan mail telling him to help Charles Shaugnassy - a true Brit - with his "poor" accent. �That would be bliss.


Did you see the episode where Daniel did an accent of a Brit trying to imitate someone from Arkansas? �AWESOME.

I KNOW!  I rolled on the floor with glee!
 

There is one thing you never put in a trap, if you're smart - if you value your continued existence - if you have any plans about seeing tomorrow there is one thing you never EVER put in a trap.� Me.

Listen, I don't know what sort of kids you've been flying around with in outer space, but you're not telling me to shut up!

As long as I don't bleed or cry, I'll do it!
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Pshaw. Who "studies" dialects? �Everybody learned how to use the same generic pseudo-British accent in High School drama, and it works for EVERYTHING.


On that note -- I just auditioned for a pretty good, equity-sanctioned Shakespeare company a week and a half ago...and a few of the girls called back for Hero in Much Ado and what's-her-face in A Winter's Tale were doing that pseudo-British thing. �I wasn't sure if I wanted to kill them or myself.

So, just trying the old "Eastern Standard" dialect just wasn't good enough for them? �

Tsk.


It was insipid.  If you're going to sound weird, at least go for something that's specific, like Stage Standard.
 
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Pshaw. Who "studies" dialects? �Everybody learned how to use the same generic pseudo-British accent in High School drama, and it works for EVERYTHING.


Um. �Me. �I do.


As if I needed another reason to like you �Smiley I was being EXTREMELY sarcastic.I hate that High School drama voice.


What I want is to be like Daniel Davis - from Arkansas, but able to convince everyone he was British so much that he got fan mail telling him to help Charles Shaugnassy - a true Brit - with his "poor" accent. �That would be bliss.


Did you see the episode where Daniel did an accent of a Brit trying to imitate someone from Arkansas? �AWESOME.

I KNOW! �I rolled on the floor with glee!


Let us marry Daniel Davis, yes?  Wink
 

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Reply #27 - Feb 14th, 2008 at 11:36am

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TenorJew wrote on Feb 13th, 2008 at 9:09pm:
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Pshaw. Who "studies" dialects? �Everybody learned how to use the same generic pseudo-British accent in High School drama, and it works for EVERYTHING.


On that note -- I just auditioned for a pretty good, equity-sanctioned Shakespeare company a week and a half ago...and a few of the girls called back for Hero in Much Ado and what's-her-face in A Winter's Tale were doing that pseudo-British thing. �I wasn't sure if I wanted to kill them or myself.

So, just trying the old "Eastern Standard" dialect just wasn't good enough for them? �

Tsk.


It was insipid. �If you're going to sound weird, at least go for something that's specific, like Stage Standard.

Is "Stage Standard" pretty much the same as "Standard AMerican," also called, "Eastern Standard," or at least the most "neutral" American dialect?
 

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Pshaw. Who "studies" dialects? �Everybody learned how to use the same generic pseudo-British accent in High School drama, and it works for EVERYTHING.


On that note -- I just auditioned for a pretty good, equity-sanctioned Shakespeare company a week and a half ago...and a few of the girls called back for Hero in Much Ado and what's-her-face in A Winter's Tale were doing that pseudo-British thing. �I wasn't sure if I wanted to kill them or myself.

So, just trying the old "Eastern Standard" dialect just wasn't good enough for them? �

Tsk.


It was insipid. �If you're going to sound weird, at least go for something that's specific, like Stage Standard.

Is "Stage Standard" pretty much the same as "Standard AMerican," also called, "Eastern Standard," or at least the most "neutral" American dialect?


Not at all. �Stage Standard is a synthetic dialect that is a mix of British RP and American Standard. �If there were an island in the Atlantic equidistant between the United States and England, that is where such a dialect would be spoken. �It is just as specific as any other dialect, was and still is used frequently in Chekhov, other older translated plays, and some Shakespeare. �Most recently, you can find a close approximation of it by Joaquin Phoenix in The Gladiator. �Many actors use it as a means to learn the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA). �It can be frequently be mistaken for a British accent, but is not such.
 
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What I want is to be like Daniel Davis - from Arkansas, but able to convince everyone he was British so much that he got fan mail telling him to help Charles Shaugnassy - a true Brit - with his "poor" accent.  That would be bliss.

I once spent the afternoon (many years ago) with two English girls that I met at an amusement park. Had them convinced that I was from Devonshire and, like them, also in the states "on holiday" 



or they MAY have just thought I was cute and didn"t wanna tell me my accent sucked.....
 

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What I want is to be like Daniel Davis - from Arkansas, but able to convince everyone he was British so much that he got fan mail telling him to help Charles Shaugnassy - a true Brit - with his "poor" accent. �That would be bliss.

I once spent the afternoon (many years ago) with two English girls that I met at an amusement park. Had them convinced that I was from Devonshire and, like them, also in the states "on holiday" �



or they MAY have just thought I was cute and didn"t wanna tell me my accent sucked.....


Either way, it just shows how much you totally rock!
 
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BigMonkey wrote on Feb 26th, 2008 at 7:15am:
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What I want is to be like Daniel Davis - from Arkansas, but able to convince everyone he was British so much that he got fan mail telling him to help Charles Shaugnassy - a true Brit - with his "poor" accent. �That would be bliss.

I once spent the afternoon (many years ago) with two English girls that I met at an amusement park. Had them convinced that I was from Devonshire and, like them, also in the states "on holiday" �



or they MAY have just thought I was cute and didn"t wanna tell me my accent sucked.....


If only there was such a place as Devonshire.
 
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Slime scum blorski wrote on Feb 27th, 2008 at 1:57pm:
BigMonkey wrote on Feb 26th, 2008 at 7:15am:
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What I want is to be like Daniel Davis - from Arkansas, but able to convince everyone he was British so much that he got fan mail telling him to help Charles Shaugnassy - a true Brit - with his "poor" accent. �That would be bliss.

I once spent the afternoon (many years ago) with two English girls that I met at an amusement park. Had them convinced that I was from Devonshire and, like them, also in the states "on holiday" �



or they MAY have just thought I was cute and didn"t wanna tell me my accent sucked.....


If only there was such a place as Devonshire.


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