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Jan 23rd, 2007 at 9:32am

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My dear, dear friend Melissa Hillman is the AD of Impact Theatre in the San Francisco Bay Area.  She posted this on their website.  WARNING: There are some choice profane words used throughout, but her advice is sound, IMHO.  Some advice is very particular to auditions that happen in the Bay Area, but you'll get the general idea. 

http://www.impacttheatre.com/splatter/2007/01/top_ten_noholdsbarred_audition_1.p...
 

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Reply #1 - Jan 23rd, 2007 at 10:32am

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That summed it up perfectly!  Thanks, Spiker.  Smiley  We should stickynote this.
 

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Reply #2 - Jan 23rd, 2007 at 1:32pm

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I clicked on that link two hours ago, at least.  Have I finished reading it?  No.  yeesh.
 

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Reply #3 - Jan 23rd, 2007 at 1:37pm

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And now that I have had time to finish reading it, I wholeheartedly agree.

Something I've noticed locally is that people don't realize that EVERYONE KNOWS EACH OTHER.  If you screw up or talk bad about someone, it gets around.  Since PA came about, I've known a LOT of people who, if not actual members, know about what goes on here.  You talk crap here, they'll find out.

Maybe we should put a sentence in the "age limit" thing about how this is for their own protection...you know how people can be really stupid when they're young.
 

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Reply #4 - Jan 23rd, 2007 at 3:30pm
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you know how people can be really stupid when they're young.

... or old.   Wink


Which is exactly why I refrain from naming names of those with whom I've had horrific experiences and/or will not work with.  My experience & opinion is mine & mine alone.  Somebody else may have an entirely different experience/opinion altogether.
 
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Reply #5 - Jan 23rd, 2007 at 4:00pm

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And now that I have had time to finish reading it, I wholeheartedly agree.

Something I've noticed locally is that people don't realize that EVERYONE KNOWS EACH OTHER. �If you screw up or talk bad about someone, it gets around. �Since PA came about, I've known a LOT of people who, if not actual members, know about what goes on here. �You talk crap here, they'll find out.

Maybe we should put a sentence in the "age limit" thing about how this is for their own protection...you know how people can be really stupid when they're young.


As my Legal Writing professor said to us: "Your reputation is like your virginity.  You only lose it once."
 

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Reply #6 - Feb 5th, 2007 at 2:53pm
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My favorite audtionion tips, which never fail, are:

Women: Be blond

Men: Be tall.

Talent and experience are neglible. Wink
 
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Reply #7 - Feb 5th, 2007 at 2:59pm

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My favorite audtionion tips, which never fail, are:

Women: Be blond

Men: Be tall.

Talent and experience are neglible. Wink


Oh crap.

Do I have time to go blonde and become 5'5" before my callback...?
 

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Reply #8 - Feb 5th, 2007 at 3:12pm

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Oh crap.

Do I have time to go blonde and become 5'5" before my callback...?


Nah.  Just show them that you're perfect for the part.
 

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Reply #9 - Feb 5th, 2007 at 4:59pm

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Like anything else in life, it's not what you know but who you know.  Local theatres are casting friends over talent.  A fantastic and well-prepared audition will get you cast sometimes.  But, if you know the director your chances improve exponentially.  Welcome to Utah theatre.
 

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Reply #10 - Feb 5th, 2007 at 5:06pm

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craigaltonw wrote on Feb 5th, 2007 at 4:59pm:
Like anything else in life, it's not what you know but who you know.  Local theatres are casting friends over talent.  A fantastic and well-prepared audition will get you cast sometimes.  But, if you know the director your chances improve exponentially.  Welcome to Utah theatre.

If you think it's different elsewhere, you're sorely mistaken.

Directors everywhere like to work with people with whom they have an existing relationship and some trust and history.

If you do a great job in a show, delivering a stunning performance while behaving professionally .... shouldn't that count in your favor next time you audition for that director/theatre? Don't you want your theatrical life to be determined by more than a monologue or cold reading?

And - just speaking from personal experience - I don't think Utah is as closed as people would make it out to be. Good auditions will definitely get you noticed. And cast.
 
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Reply #11 - Feb 5th, 2007 at 5:07pm

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The Professor wrote on Feb 5th, 2007 at 3:12pm:
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Oh crap.

Do I have time to go blonde and become 5'5" before my callback...?


Nah.  Just show them that you're perfect for the part.

That's the best tip of all - be so ******* good that they have no choice but to cast you.  Smiley
 
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Reply #12 - Feb 5th, 2007 at 11:12pm

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mr. spiker wrote on Feb 5th, 2007 at 5:07pm:
The Professor wrote on Feb 5th, 2007 at 3:12pm:
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Oh crap.

Do I have time to go blonde and become 5'5" before my callback...?


Nah.  Just show them that you're perfect for the part.

That's the best tip of all - be so ******* good that they have no choice but to cast you.  Smiley


Well, I SURE TRIED.

 

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Reply #13 - Feb 5th, 2007 at 11:13pm

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mr. spiker wrote on Feb 5th, 2007 at 5:06pm:
craigaltonw wrote on Feb 5th, 2007 at 4:59pm:
Like anything else in life, it's not what you know but who you know.  Local theatres are casting friends over talent.  A fantastic and well-prepared audition will get you cast sometimes.  But, if you know the director your chances improve exponentially.  Welcome to Utah theatre.

If you think it's different elsewhere, you're sorely mistaken.

Directors everywhere like to work with people with whom they have an existing relationship and some trust and history.

If you do a great job in a show, delivering a stunning performance while behaving professionally .... shouldn't that count in your favor next time you audition for that director/theatre? Don't you want your theatrical life to be determined by more than a monologue or cold reading?

And - just speaking from personal experience - I don't think Utah is as closed as people would make it out to be. Good auditions will definitely get you noticed. And cast.


Yup.  The performing community is VERY tight around here, too.  Word gets out either way--if you're a total conceited cow or if you're the easiest person to work with, people WILL find out. 

So be careful not to be the total conceited cow. Wink
 

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Reply #14 - Feb 6th, 2007 at 5:51am

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The Professor wrote on Feb 5th, 2007 at 3:12pm:
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Oh crap.

Do I have time to go blonde and become 5'5" before my callback...?


Nah. �Just show them that you're perfect for the part.

And if you're a particularly good actor, you could just BE perfect for the part....
 

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Reply #15 - Feb 6th, 2007 at 5:52am

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So be careful not to be the total conceited cow. Wink

Can I be the total conceited bull, instead?
 

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Reply #16 - Feb 6th, 2007 at 8:47am

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My favorite audtionion tips, which never fail, are:

Women: Be blond

Men: Be tall.

Talent and experience are neglible. Wink


Oh crap.

Do I have time to go blonde and become 5'5" before my callback...?


I promise, as a 5'5" blonde, it doesn't necessarily mean squat.
 

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Reply #17 - Feb 6th, 2007 at 9:01am
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All of these are very on target; thanks for posting them.....  I especially concur with the "Don't use me" admonition (my particular pet peeve).
 
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Reply #18 - Feb 6th, 2007 at 10:27am

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All of these are very on target; thanks for posting them.....  I especially concur with the "Don't use me" admonition (my particular pet peeve).


I've never taken an audition class or anything, so I always wondered about that.  I've done it both ways, and realized that it was less annoying to EVERYONE when I didn't "use" the directors.  I only did that once...  I sometimes regret not finishing my acting major.

I should save that article for future reference.
 

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Reply #19 - Feb 7th, 2007 at 2:40pm

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All of these are very on target; thanks for posting them..... �I especially concur with the "Don't use me" admonition (my particular pet peeve).


I agree.  And I'm astounded by how many of my voice students are floored when I give them this little gem of information.  "Really?  Don't look at the directors while I'm singing?  Really?  Not once?"
 

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Reply #20 - Feb 18th, 2007 at 8:57pm

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Ok, I'm reformatting my resume, but I have a question:  What is more important to include in the experience part, WHEN the show was done, or WHO directed it?

I love being clueless. Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #21 - Feb 18th, 2007 at 10:39pm

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Thanks for the 10 tip list - so informative, and for newbies to the audition scene , so badly needed!  ugh
where to start.........
 

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Reply #22 - Feb 18th, 2007 at 11:22pm

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Ok, I'm reformatting my resume, but I have a question:  What is more important to include in the experience part, WHEN the show was done, or WHO directed it?

I love being clueless. Roll Eyes


I would say the director.
 

"...there are more people alive now than have died in all of human history. �In other words, if everyone wanted to play Hamlet at once, they couldn't, because there aren't enough skulls!"
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Reply #23 - Feb 19th, 2007 at 9:31am

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Putting the date can do nothing but hurt you. I wouldn't include it, even if there is space. If the show you were in was a long time ago, then it becomes irrelevant to what you're capable of doing today.

Putting the director is much better, especially if you've worked with some well known directors.
 
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Reply #24 - Feb 19th, 2007 at 10:10am

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spiker wrote on Feb 18th, 2007 at 11:22pm:
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Ok, I'm reformatting my resume, but I have a question:  What is more important to include in the experience part, WHEN the show was done, or WHO directed it?

I love being clueless. Roll Eyes


I would say the director.


Thanks (and thanks to BeechCraft).  Now, I have another dilemma.  What if you've done a show multiple times (such as Christmas Carol or Sweeney Todd) under two different directors?  How is that listed?
 

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Ok, I'm reformatting my resume, but I have a question: �What is more important to include in the experience part, WHEN the show was done, or WHO directed it?

I love being clueless. Roll Eyes


I would say the director.


Thanks (and thanks to BeechCraft). �Now, I have another dilemma. �What if you've done a show multiple times (such as Christmas Carol or Sweeney Todd) under two different directors? �How is that listed?


If it's at the same theatre, pick the most well-known director and list it once. If it's at different theatres, choose the most well-known theatre and/or director. If you have lots of blank space on your resume, put them both.
 
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Reply #26 - Feb 19th, 2007 at 3:04pm

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Beech Craft wrote on Feb 19th, 2007 at 2:46pm:
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Thanks (and thanks to BeechCraft).  Now, I have another dilemma.  What if you've done a show multiple times (such as Christmas Carol or Sweeney Todd) under two different directors?  How is that listed?


If it's at the same theatre, pick the most well-known director and list it once. If it's at different theatres, choose the most well-known theatre and/or director. If you have lots of blank space on your resume, put them both.


What if BOTH directors are well known, but one of them is dead...?  I did the show twice under one director (who, sadly, passed a couple of years ago) and once under the other director.  Should I put the most recent director?
 

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Persistent wrote on Feb 7th, 2007 at 2:40pm:
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All of these are very on target; thanks for posting them..... �I especially concur with the "Don't use me" admonition (my particular pet peeve).


I agree. �And I'm astounded by how many of my voice students are floored when I give them this little gem of information. �"Really? �Don't look at the directors while I'm singing? �Really? �Not once?"


I was one of those floor-ies. I felt so betrayed because people had told me before to make eye contact.
 

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Reply #28 - Feb 19th, 2007 at 7:10pm

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What if BOTH directors are well known, but one of them is dead...?  I did the show twice under one director (who, sadly, passed a couple of years ago) and once under the other director.  Should I put the most recent director?

Were you playing the same role each time?

I include the play, theatre, and role. I, personally, don't include the director.  But if you've worked with someone whose name carries weight, I would include that.

In terms of what comes first, I generally have my "best" credits at the top so that if they just grab the first credit off the page it's the one I think will make the most impact.

Remember the purpose of the theatrical resume is really just about making the production staff comfortable. Ideally, you want them to say "they played that/there ... they must be OK".
 
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Reply #29 - Feb 19th, 2007 at 8:45pm
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Broadway Baby wrote on Feb 19th, 2007 at 6:25pm:
Persistent wrote on Feb 7th, 2007 at 2:40pm:
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All of these are very on target; thanks for posting them..... �I especially concur with the "Don't use me" admonition (my particular pet peeve).


I agree. �And I'm astounded by how many of my voice students are floored when I give them this little gem of information. �"Really? �Don't look at the directors while I'm singing? �Really? �Not once?"


I was one of those floor-ies. I felt so betrayed because people had told me before to make eye contact. �


Don't understand why people would think this is a good strategy.... maybe because eye contact is reinforced for scenework between actors. But I do know that any teacher/mentor that doesn't make clear the differences between scenework and audition is doing a disservice.
 
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Reply #30 - Feb 19th, 2007 at 8:48pm

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Don't understand why people would think this is a good strategy....

I've heard it described as "showing your confidence", "being personable", "making sure they remember you", and "getting them involved/invested with you".

It's awful advice, regardless the reason.
 
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Reply #31 - Feb 19th, 2007 at 8:53pm
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mr. spiker wrote on Feb 19th, 2007 at 7:10pm:
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What if BOTH directors are well known, but one of them is dead...? �I did the show twice under one director (who, sadly, passed a couple of years ago) and once under the other director. �Should I put the most recent director?

Were you playing the same role each time?

I include the play, theatre, and role. I, personally, don't include the director. �But if you've worked with someone whose name carries weight, I would include that.

In terms of what comes first, I generally have my "best" credits at the top so that if they just grab the first credit off the page it's the one I think will make the most impact.

Remember the purpose of the theatrical resume is really just about making the production staff comfortable. Ideally, you want them to say "they played that/there ... they must be OK".


Good points all.... I'd add that you should seldom expect anyone to spend more than 5-10 seconds scanning your rez (and headshot for that matter). When I sort through submissions I'll check the first few credits AND the last.... Then, if interested, I'll check for names of directors and theaters I recognize.... then the skills list.
 
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Reply #32 - Feb 19th, 2007 at 8:55pm
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mr. spiker wrote on Feb 19th, 2007 at 8:48pm:
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Don't understand why people would think this is a good strategy....

I've heard it described as "showing your confidence", "being personable", "making sure they remember you", and "getting them involved/invested with you".

It's awful advice, regardless the reason.

I get that logic.... but you've always got the entrance and exit portion to connect to the auditors.....  During these time I absolutely encourage eye-contact.

Once you step into character however....
 
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Reply #33 - Feb 20th, 2007 at 9:29am

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Fran -

One last thing on the resume.

Much of the resume "rules" are variations of "it depends".  Smiley

The best thing you can do is throw something together, then show it to people to get a critique. Get a few opinions, and that'll help a lot more than talking theoretically.

Hmmmmm .... maybe some kind of 'Critique My Resume/Headshot' thread would be in order?
 
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Reply #34 - Feb 20th, 2007 at 3:03pm

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I know I've said this a few times on these boards.

But, seriously, read Michael Shurtliff's (sp?) "Audition." �Soooooooo informative, an easy read, and totally worth it.
 
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All of these are very on target; thanks for posting them..... �I especially concur with the "Don't use me" admonition (my particular pet peeve).


I agree. �And I'm astounded by how many of my voice students are floored when I give them this little gem of information. �"Really? �Don't look at the directors while I'm singing? �Really? �Not once?"


I was one of those floor-ies. I felt so betrayed because people had told me before to make eye contact. �


Don't understand why people would think this is a good strategy.... maybe because eye contact is reinforced for scenework between actors. But I do know that any teacher/mentor that doesn't make clear the differences between scenework and audition is doing a disservice.


That's why I felt so betrayed. It was a teacher that told me to make eye contact. A teacher with audition experience. I guess people tell you to make eye contact because it seems like a job interview or something. . .but like you said make eye contact before and after the audition, not during.
 

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Reply #36 - Feb 20th, 2007 at 10:52pm

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I have NEVER used a director or anyone behind the table as a partner at an audition, even when they are reading lines with me.  That requires them to "work" too, and they already have enough on their plate. When I had my callback for Wicked a couple months ago, it was so nice because Fiyero was in there to read lines with, and so I had an actual partner, and not some random stage manager reading lines without emotion.  Those are the only times I make eye contact with someone while at an audition.  It's awkward for all parties, otherwise.

 
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